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		<title>By: maxwan shortcuts master</title>
		<link>http://www.dysturb.net/2008/sharing-the-ultimate-acad-shortcuts/comment-page-1/#comment-59474</link>
		<dc:creator>maxwan shortcuts master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 09:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AutoCAD 2011 BETA shortcuts are posted on our ftp site.  All shortcuts work as in ACAD2010, but the final version will have new and improved 2011 features added.

Great new 2011 2D features are (right click shortcut): 
- select similar
- edit, add, remove vertex in pline
- join and edit splines

get the shortcuts @ ftp.maxwan.com/public/AutoCAD/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AutoCAD 2011 BETA shortcuts are posted on our ftp site.  All shortcuts work as in ACAD2010, but the final version will have new and improved 2011 features added.</p>
<p>Great new 2011 2D features are (right click shortcut):<br />
- select similar<br />
- edit, add, remove vertex in pline<br />
- join and edit splines</p>
<p>get the shortcuts @ <a href="http://ftp.maxwan.com/public/AutoCAD/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">http://ftp.maxwan.com/public/AutoCAD/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rhino 3D &#8211; Shortcut Aliases &#124; Open Form</title>
		<link>http://www.dysturb.net/2008/sharing-the-ultimate-acad-shortcuts/comment-page-1/#comment-59467</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhino 3D &#8211; Shortcut Aliases &#124; Open Form</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 08:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] de Maxwan Architects + Urbanists à Rotterdam, et leur projet long terme de développement des  Raccourcis AutoCAD que vous pouvez télécharger au Dysturb.Net. Il a développé ce système de raccourcis en [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Open Form &#187; Rhinoceros 3D &#8211; Shortcuts v1.0</title>
		<link>http://www.dysturb.net/2008/sharing-the-ultimate-acad-shortcuts/comment-page-1/#comment-57309</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Form &#187; Rhinoceros 3D &#8211; Shortcuts v1.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 10:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] de Maxwan Architects + Urbanists à Rotterdam, et leur projet longue-terme de développement des  Raccourcis AutoCAD que vous pouvez télécharger au Dysturb.Net. J’ai développé ce système de raccourcis en [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: AutoCAD on OS X Survey at dysturb.net &#124; dysturb.net is our shared mindscape on the visual, spatial &#38; urban culture of the dutch architecture scene.</title>
		<link>http://www.dysturb.net/2008/sharing-the-ultimate-acad-shortcuts/comment-page-1/#comment-22378</link>
		<dc:creator>AutoCAD on OS X Survey at dysturb.net &#124; dysturb.net is our shared mindscape on the visual, spatial &#38; urban culture of the dutch architecture scene.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hand, while the other hand rests on the key­board typing out com­mands (we have dis­cussed the noto­ri­ous maxwan auto­cad short­cut system before). Purity. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.dysturb.net/2008/sharing-the-ultimate-acad-shortcuts/comment-page-1/#comment-17004</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please contact us directly to obtain the layer structure template which is important to make the layer shortcuts work properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please contact us directly to obtain the layer structure template which is important to make the layer shortcuts work properly.</p>
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		<title>By: cad rhinocerous cheat sheet - Dogpile Web Search</title>
		<link>http://www.dysturb.net/2008/sharing-the-ultimate-acad-shortcuts/comment-page-1/#comment-8091</link>
		<dc:creator>cad rhinocerous cheat sheet - Dogpile Web Search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 19:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] ...       whitepapers.silicon.com/0,39024759,60081015p,00.ht...   &#149; Found on Google     Postcardware: The Ultimate AutoCad Shortcuts at dysturb.net ...   Feb 13, 2008 ... This is a helpful cheat sheet for memorizing the new command-line functions. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 15:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Darrel
that shortcutlist for Rhino sounds good. I assume you&#039;ll make them match the Autocad Shortcuts, right. That would be amazing! Keep me posted on the progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Darrel<br />
that shortcutlist for Rhino sounds good. I assume you&#8217;ll make them match the Autocad Shortcuts, right. That would be amazing! Keep me posted on the progress.</p>
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		<title>By: autocad + spl2pl - HooSeek - recherche Web</title>
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		<dc:creator>autocad + spl2pl - HooSeek - recherche Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] type SPL2PL to run! ... powercadd.designcommunity.com/topic-5766.html - Pages similaires   9. Postcardware: The Ultimate AutoCad Shortcuts at dysturb.net ...  Spl2Pl - convert spline to polyline bo - boundary h - hatch ... The way autocad handles shortcuts, [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@adam
You are right in some ways, but not all the way. I have never understood how Autocad handles localisation, changing the shortcuts along with the interface language. I had just learned the shortcuts (in german) when I started out with Acad at university, then I worked in Spain: -bang- all different shortcuts. Only to return to Germany to work in an office which used an english Acad version: start from scratch, again. Which is also why using the english acad, or at least install the english shortcuts, is the only way to go. Standards &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; important. 

But then, if you are&#039;nt a casual user of Acad (and I doubt there are any casual users...), you can give operating system conventions a friendly nod (&lt;strong&gt;CTRL-C&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;CTRL-V&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;CTRL-P&lt;/strong&gt;...) and go for efficiency. The way autocad handles shortcuts, by typing in short acronyms followed by a right-click or space-bar tap, is unique anyhow.

Also consider the ergonomy research which went into the design. E.g. al the most-used commands are located in the left half of the keyboard, to minimise movements of the left hand, and to leave the mousing hand where it belongs. Note that the shortcuts are &lt;em&gt;additions&lt;/em&gt;, not substitutes. So &quot;&lt;strong&gt;DD&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; brings up the layer dialogue (left hand only), but you can still use &quot;&lt;strong&gt;LA&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; - the standards are kept intact.

The shortcut system gets even more powerful, as soon as the layer naming scheme going with it is applied (this might be even more difficult for many users, as they&#039;re already tied to industry standards, office best practices, or bad habits). Then layer management becomes very powerful: &quot;&lt;strong&gt;LOX&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; to switch off all XREF&#039;s, &quot;&lt;strong&gt;LNS&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; to switch on all hatches, etc. (I will try to find time to append some text about that in the above article.)

Finally, it appears - from my non-representative point of view - that the this shortcut meme is spreading in the dutch architecture habitat, mostly with offices who are tied in one way or another linked to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oma.eu&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OMA&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maxwan.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;maxwan&lt;/a&gt;. So it seems to be worth the learning trouble - at least for the professional user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@adam<br />
You are right in some ways, but not all the way. I have never understood how Autocad handles localisation, changing the shortcuts along with the interface language. I had just learned the shortcuts (in german) when I started out with Acad at university, then I worked in Spain: -bang- all different shortcuts. Only to return to Germany to work in an office which used an english Acad version: start from scratch, again. Which is also why using the english acad, or at least install the english shortcuts, is the only way to go. Standards <em>are</em> important. </p>
<p>But then, if you are&#8217;nt a casual user of Acad (and I doubt there are any casual users&#8230;), you can give operating system conventions a friendly nod (<strong>CTRL-C</strong>, <strong>CTRL-V</strong>, <strong>CTRL-P</strong>&#8230;) and go for efficiency. The way autocad handles shortcuts, by typing in short acronyms followed by a right-click or space-bar tap, is unique anyhow.</p>
<p>Also consider the ergonomy research which went into the design. E.g. al the most-used commands are located in the left half of the keyboard, to minimise movements of the left hand, and to leave the mousing hand where it belongs. Note that the shortcuts are <em>additions</em>, not substitutes. So &#8220;<strong>DD</strong>&#8221; brings up the layer dialogue (left hand only), but you can still use &#8220;<strong>LA</strong>&#8221; &#8211; the standards are kept intact.</p>
<p>The shortcut system gets even more powerful, as soon as the layer naming scheme going with it is applied (this might be even more difficult for many users, as they&#8217;re already tied to industry standards, office best practices, or bad habits). Then layer management becomes very powerful: &#8220;<strong>LOX</strong>&#8221; to switch off all XREF&#8217;s, &#8220;<strong>LNS</strong>&#8221; to switch on all hatches, etc. (I will try to find time to append some text about that in the above article.)</p>
<p>Finally, it appears &#8211; from my non-representative point of view &#8211; that the this shortcut meme is spreading in the dutch architecture habitat, mostly with offices who are tied in one way or another linked to <a href="http://www.oma.eu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">OMA</a> or <a href="http://www.maxwan.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">maxwan</a>. So it seems to be worth the learning trouble &#8211; at least for the professional user.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ darrel
By the way: Rhino for Mac: www.irhino3d.com/
still in beta and free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ darrel<br />
By the way: Rhino for Mac: <a href="http://www.irhino3d.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">http://www.irhino3d.com/</a><br />
still in beta and free.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>somewhere there&#039;s a cartoon floating around about &quot;autocad standards are important, that&#039;s why i wrote my own&quot;.

it&#039;s useless to try to develop a &quot;most efficient&quot; set of autocad key commands.  there is only &quot;most efficient for yourself&quot;, because it depends on the amount of brain power required to remember the commands, which often depends on the similarity to key commands in other applications (photoshop, form-z, etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>somewhere there&#8217;s a cartoon floating around about &#8220;autocad standards are important, that&#8217;s why i wrote my own&#8221;.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s useless to try to develop a &#8220;most efficient&#8221; set of autocad key commands.  there is only &#8220;most efficient for yourself&#8221;, because it depends on the amount of brain power required to remember the commands, which often depends on the similarity to key commands in other applications (photoshop, form-z, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: Darrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all of you who also like Rhinoceros 3D by McNeel - http://www.rhino3d.com/ - I am working on a new Alias list. I have started from scratch in version 4.0, and it is taking a lot of time as I go systematically through the software and using it day-in and day-out. But if this interests you, or if you have already started this, please let me know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all of you who also like Rhinoceros 3D by McNeel &#8211; <a href="http://www.rhino3d.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="liexternal">http://www.rhino3d.com/</a> &#8211; I am working on a new Alias list. I have started from scratch in version 4.0, and it is taking a lot of time as I go systematically through the software and using it day-in and day-out. But if this interests you, or if you have already started this, please let me know!</p>
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