Comments on: Al Manakh – Listen to the Koolhaas, Wigley & Bouman Debate @ NAi http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/ dysturb.net is our shared mindscape on the visual, spatial & urban culture of the dutch architecture scene. Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:26:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Al Manakh - Listen to the Koolhaas, Wigley & Bouman Debate @ NAi | Architecture Lab http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/comment-page-1/#comment-5487 Al Manakh - Listen to the Koolhaas, Wigley & Bouman Debate @ NAi | Architecture Lab Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:56:32 +0000 http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/#comment-5487 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] and of course, the exciting subject of Dubai and the Gulf Region itself.” Read more on Dysturb addthis_url = [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] and of course, the exciting subject of Dubai and the Gulf Region itself.” Read more on Dysturb addthis_url = [...]

]]> By: Laura http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/comment-page-1/#comment-3080 Laura Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:19:41 +0000 http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/#comment-3080 thank you very much for the notice. im from mexico and i live in barcelona. im studying architecture and we are developing a project in dubai. this review is great!! thank you very much for the notice. im from mexico and i live in barcelona. im studying architecture and we are developing a project in dubai. this review is great!!

]]> By: VOLUME Newsletter http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/comment-page-1/#comment-1622 VOLUME Newsletter Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:43:04 +0000 http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/#comment-1622 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] After Al Manakh's premier at the International Design Forum in Dubai, it reached the shores of the rest of the world where it was reported on and reviewed. -Tour de Force - Trojan Horse - Bill Sarnecky at Universe in Universe in English, German and propably soon in Arabic -Review by David Assael at Platforma Arquitectura (Chili) in Spanish -The Gulf: Future of the City, Edition 2007? by Piet Vollaard at Archined Dutch and English View some fragments of the Al Manakh launch at the NAi (10 september) on YouTube: Ole Bouman - Introduction & the Circle of Pain Rem Koolhaas - Introduction & Discussion Mark Wigley - Reflections and check out the transcription, photo's and podcast of the whole event at dysturb.net [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] After Al Manakh’s premier at the International Design Forum in Dubai, it reached the shores of the rest of the world where it was reported on and reviewed. -Tour de Force – Trojan Horse – Bill Sarnecky at Universe in Universe in English, German and propably soon in Arabic -Review by David Assael at Platforma Arquitectura (Chili) in Spanish -The Gulf: Future of the City, Edition 2007? by Piet Vollaard at Archined Dutch and English View some fragments of the Al Manakh launch at the NAi (10 september) on YouTube: Ole Bouman – Introduction & the Circle of Pain Rem Koolhaas – Introduction & Discussion Mark Wigley – Reflections and check out the transcription, photo’s and podcast of the whole event at dysturb.net [...]

]]> By: Eikongraphia » Blog Archive » Dubai 2: Palm Jumeirah http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/comment-page-1/#comment-1336 Eikongraphia » Blog Archive » Dubai 2: Palm Jumeirah Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:59:52 +0000 http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/#comment-1336 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Al Manakh, Book Presentation [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] Al Manakh, Book Presentation [...]

]]> By: Dysturbcast launched! at dysturb.net | dysturb.net is our shared mindscape on the visual, spatial & urban culture of the dutch architecture scene. http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/comment-page-1/#comment-1096 Dysturbcast launched! at dysturb.net | dysturb.net is our shared mindscape on the visual, spatial & urban culture of the dutch architecture scene. Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:13:20 +0000 http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/#comment-1096 [...] interviews in the form of movies, mp3s and pdfs. So far the Associative Design movie and the Al Manakh launch recording are [...] [...] interviews in the form of movies, mp3s and pdfs. So far the Associative Design movie and the Al Manakh launch recording are [...]

]]> By: レム・コールハースのプレゼンテーション http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/comment-page-1/#comment-1030 レム・コールハースのプレゼンテーション Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:39:48 +0000 http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/#comment-1030 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Al Manakh - Listen to the Koolhaas, Wigley & Bouman Debate @ NAi [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] Al Manakh – Listen to the Koolhaas, Wigley & Bouman Debate @ NAi [...]

]]> By: Al Manakh - Listen to the Koolhaas, Wigley & Bouman Debate @ NAi « Architecture Lab http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/comment-page-1/#comment-1013 Al Manakh - Listen to the Koolhaas, Wigley & Bouman Debate @ NAi « Architecture Lab Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:46:26 +0000 http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/#comment-1013 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] “ The NAi (new website) hosted the book launch and discussion featuring Rem Koolhaas, Mark Wigley and Ole Bouman Monday night in Rotterdam (10-09-2007).The three presenters first outlined their positions about the gulf region context, before sitting down to take questions about the book. As a possible strategy to diffuse the potential early judgments and criticisms of the crowd, Bouman asked the question, Who has been to Dubai [or gulf] and seen it first hand? Roughly not even 10% of the crowd raised their hands, and only half-heartedly at that. It reflects one of the weaker themes of the evening that we should not judge the situation in the gulf region, especially in the UAE. When it came to the questions at the end of the evening, the presenters were at times defensive, and repeated numerous times that the books aims to suspend judgment and rather present a detached overview/reading of the situation. But this is not to say the evening wasnt full of great ideas, polemics galore, and of course, the exciting subject of Dubai and the Gulf Region itself.” Read more on Dysturb [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] “ The NAi (new website) hosted the book launch and discussion featuring Rem Koolhaas, Mark Wigley and Ole Bouman Monday night in Rotterdam (10-09-2007).The three presenters first outlined their positions about the gulf region context, before sitting down to take questions about the book. As a possible strategy to diffuse the potential early judgments and criticisms of the crowd, Bouman asked the question, Who has been to Dubai [or gulf] and seen it first hand? Roughly not even 10% of the crowd raised their hands, and only half-heartedly at that. It reflects one of the weaker themes of the evening that we should not judge the situation in the gulf region, especially in the UAE. When it came to the questions at the end of the evening, the presenters were at times defensive, and repeated numerous times that the books aims to suspend judgment and rather present a detached overview/reading of the situation. But this is not to say the evening wasnt full of great ideas, polemics galore, and of course, the exciting subject of Dubai and the Gulf Region itself.” Read more on Dysturb [...]

]]> By: toms http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/comment-page-1/#comment-989 toms Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:30:28 +0000 http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/#comment-989 I agree - even if it is true that in a carnival of dressed-up high-rises the individual building doesn't stand out anymore, something else emerges: the entire ensemble becomes a meta-icon. Extending Dubai into the desert hinterland is certainly rather a tour-de-force than a smart proposal for sustainable development. IMO we can observe in both cases Koolhaas' provocation/propagande machine running beautifully: setting the practice apart with over-statements, which are not really solid, but thought-inspiring nonetheless. ps.: thanks for the compliments (and for the <a href ="http://www.archined.nl/archined/6348.html" target="blank" rel="nofollow">plug on archined</a>!). We really rushed the article out before leaving for a Documenta trip to Kassel, apparently that didn't hurt too much. I agree – even if it is true that in a carnival of dressed-up high-rises the individual building doesn’t stand out anymore, something else emerges: the entire ensemble becomes a meta-icon.

Extending Dubai into the desert hinterland is certainly rather a tour-de-force than a smart proposal for sustainable development.

IMO we can observe in both cases Koolhaas’ provocation/propagande machine running beautifully: setting the practice apart with over-statements, which are not really solid, but thought-inspiring nonetheless.

ps.: thanks for the compliments (and for the plug on archined!). We really rushed the article out before leaving for a Documenta trip to Kassel, apparently that didn’t hurt too much.

]]> By: dezain.net - Thread: Presentations of Al Manakh http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/comment-page-1/#comment-988 dezain.net - Thread: Presentations of Al Manakh Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:02:52 +0000 http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/#comment-988 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Presentations of Al Manakh [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] Presentations of Al Manakh [...]

]]> By: Michiel van Raaij http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/comment-page-1/#comment-948 Michiel van Raaij Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:16:52 +0000 http://www.dysturb.net/2007/al-manakh-listen-to-the-koolhaas-wigley-bouman-debate-nai/#comment-948 The callapse of icons and iconography! Personally I don't see that happening anytime soo. I do think there are economic and ecologic limits to the concept. But are OMA's designs that much more sustainable? I doubt it. For the rest: You guys at Dysturb are doing fine things, this review is a very nice one! Compliments! The callapse of icons and iconography! Personally I don’t see that happening anytime soo. I do think there are economic and ecologic limits to the concept. But are OMA’s designs that much more sustainable? I doubt it.

For the rest: You guys at Dysturb are doing fine things, this review is a very nice one! Compliments!

]]>